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I believe one of the options, either 70 or 75 is correct. We just may not be able to know for sure which one. Additionally, I believe it is imperative to take into consideration the fact that the answer to this particular issue 70 or 75 has absolutely zero impact on any important theme or doctrine of the Bible.
The vast number of alleged errors fall into this category. I think that the number is not so important, we can only confirm with certitude that , the Israelites who went with Jacob to Egypt were less than From that figure we can start extrapolating in order to find out whatever we want to know.
Then i saw something that pointed out Leah only has 32 sons and daughters listed not 33 which got me back to So here is some math,. Somehow 32 was changed to 33 either by error or by faulty reasoning such as including Jacob or Leah herself in her own list of descendants. Thanks for the explanation.
Very very helpful. I noticed that a couple of times you got your names mixed. Anyway, thanks again. Skip to content. A picture is worth a thousand words: As a matter of fact, the Old Testament confirms this number two more times. I warned you it was confusing! So here is some math, 32 from Lea 16 from Zilpah 20 from Rachel 9 from Benjamin 9 from Joseph, Perhaps two of these from Joseph had been concieved but not yet born? Thanks for your comment Giselita! One may want to disregard Rachel as she died on the way to Bethlehem Gen.
Therefore it is my humble opinion that the number 75 came from including all the names in this passage. Sign up to join this community. The best answers are voted up and rise to the top. Stack Overflow for Teams — Collaborate and share knowledge with a private group.
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Active 3 years, 2 months ago. Viewed 21k times. Improve this question. Bruce James Bruce James 4, 1 1 gold badge 15 15 silver badges 33 33 bronze badges. Add a comment. Active Oldest Votes. Improve this answer. Soldarnal Soldarnal In this regard, the additional four people appear to have been - Jacob Leah Zilpah Bilhah Thus Ex and Deut indicate that there were 70 persons " The additional five would appear to be - Manasssah son of Joseph Ephraim son of Joseph Jochebed daughter of Levi born in Egypt - Nu Er died in Canaan Onan died in Canaan The latter two had died in Joseph's absence--that is, they died after Joseph was sold into slavery in Egypt, and so Joseph may have learned from Judah that they were born to him Judah during the 22 year hiatus that is, Joseph's absence , but not that they had died.
Joseph Joseph Is it possible that Joseph's wife Asenath instead of Jochebed could be counted as part of the 75?
As to the question of 66 vs. Yisroel Chaivkayam Yisroel Chaivkayam 19 1 1 bronze badge. Alfonso P. Austria Jr. Eric Eric 1. Hi Eric and thanks for contributing. To greatly improve this post please actually quote the passages you mention rather than just giving their "address". This is hardly an error! Brown, Vol. Archeological and Literary sources: 70 vs.
Jubilees The surviving fragments of his tragic drama about the Exodus are often grouped together with the Old Testament Pseudepigrapha, since they are nonbiblical Jewish writing from the same period. In the process of adapting the biblical material to the genre of Greek tragedy, Ezekiel adds extrabiblical material, including a dream by Moses and characters not mentioned in the Bible. Substantial fragments of Exagoge are preserved in Eusebius Preparation for the Gospel 9.
As far as we can reconstruct the play, the outline is as follows. In the first scene vv 1—65 Moses summarizes in a long monologue the events recorded in Exodus 1—2. The second scene vv 66—89 contains, besides a short dialogue between Zipporah and a certain Chum, another nonbiblical scene, namely a report by Moses about a strange dream or vision he had in which he saw God enthroned on the summit of Mt. God beckons him, hands over his regalia to Moses, descends from his throne, and orders Moses to sit upon it, whereupon all heavenly powers prostrate before him.
Moses has been given all power in heaven and on earth cf. Matt Subsequently, in a long monologue God enumerates the ten plagues that he will bring upon Egypt Exodus 7—11; these plagues could, of course, not be put onstage and gives the rules for the institution of Passover Exod — In a fourth scene vv — Moses repeats these rules before the elders of the people Exod —28, with the significant omission of the obligatory circumcision of all participants; a concession to his pagan audience?
In the sixth scene vv — scouts report to Moses that they have found a paradisiacal place for the encampment namely Elim, Exod and describe at length a marvelous and gigantic bird that they have seen there. Undoubtedly the bird is a phoenix, whose appearance is always a symbol of the inauguration of a new era in history or salvation history; see van der Horst —12; Jacobson — There must have been more acts in the play than the scenes enumerated, especially in view of the great time gap between vv and scenes 4 and 5 , but we do not know how many.
Philo, a non-Christian Jew was aware that the Hebrew and Greek texts before him used both 70 and 75 and goes into a lengthily discussion about it:. The fascinating thing is that Philo demonstrates the various ways of computing the number who went to Egypt. This proves that Stephen, through inspiration was quoting the valid number of The truth is that there must have been two different textual traditions in these passages.
For Jacob is the name of one who is wrestling and engaged in a contest and trying to trip up his antagonist, not of one who has gained the victory. For, on the feast of tabernacles, besides all other sacrifices, it is ordered that the priest should offer up seventy heifers for a burnt offering.
Again, it is in accordance with the computation of seventy that the phials of the princes are provided, for each of them is of the weight of seventy shekels; since whatever things are associated and confederate together in the soul, and dear to one another, have a power which is truly attractive, namely, the sacred computation of seventy , which Egypt, the nature which hates virtue, and loves to indulge the passions, is introduced as lamenting; for mourning among them is computed at seventy days.
This number, therefore, as I have said before, is familiar to Moses, but the number of the five outward senses is familiar to him who embraces the body and external things , which it is customary to call Joseph; for he pays such attention to those things, that he presents his own uterine brother, the offspring of the outward sense, for he had no acquaintance at all with those who were only his brothers as sons of the same father, with five exceedingly beautiful garments, thinking the outward senses things of exceeding beauty, and worthy of being adorned and honoured by him.
Josephus reads 70 in two places: Josephus Antiquities 2. Judges And Gideon had threescore and ten sons of his body begotten: for he had many wives. Context Crossref Comm Hebrew. Verse Click for Chapter. American Standard Version All the souls that came with Jacob into Egypt, that came out of his loins, besides Jacob's sons wives, all the souls were threescore and six; Aramaic Bible in Plain English All the souls that entered with Yaquuv into Egypt, that came out from his loins, apart from the wives of the children of Yaquuv, all the souls were sixty and six; Brenton Septuagint Translation And all the souls that came with Jacob into Egypt, who came out of his loins, besides the wives of the sons of Jacob, even all the souls were sixty-six.
Contemporary English Version Sixty-six members of Jacob's family went to Egypt with him, not counting his daughters-in-law. Douay-Rheims Bible All the souls that went with Jacob into Egypt, and that came out of his thigh, besides his sons' wives, sixty-six.
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